IFROSA:
Thank you for granting us this interview. It is important to hear
what you, the painter, have to say about yourself and your place
within the tradition of Israeli painting.
Roee Suffin:
There is no one tradition or ideology of Israeli painting: we
should speak rather of a rich, complex, multi-lateral historical
evolution.
In terms of my own work, I usually comment on social mores and
fashionable trends and on the way they impact on various aesthetics.
I do not adhere to a single style or technique.
I am interested in appearances in general and, as a result, I
use different techniques and different styles according to the
needs of the moment.
My work is not limited to a single subject or idea, but is diverse,
and often deals with different issues at one time, combining a
number of elements to create one unified notion.
I move around social issues. I tend to criticize aesthetic forms
and, through this, I comment on social situations and the individual,
psychological states that reside within these situations. Aesthetic
forms or styles possess a content of ideology, values and beliefs
which function in society and are present in commonplace representations.
So, I use diverse styles and techniques and jump from one to another,
depending on the subject I am dealing with and the aesthetic form
and content I am exploring.
IFROSA: What was your artistic
background and development?
Roee Suffrin:
I first began, as a child, to depict animals and habitats in a
scientific manner. At a later stage, as a sub-cultural activity,
I began producing images in a romantic-idealistic-pre-Renaissance
style. I feel that these works expressed strong social criticism
and preference for spiritual over daily material life. These notions,
which were based on dark, poetic, philosophical tendencies, were
still part of my world when, at 19, I began my studies at Bezalel
Academy of Art.
As an independent artist studying in an Academy, I struggled with
the ruling order of the Academy, and my work still reflects this
theme of struggle against the social order of the day.
IFROSA: What is a
theoretical statement, and is it possible for an artist to define
himself in this way?
Roee Suffrin:
It is important for an artist to have a statement of beliefs,
intellectual or otherwise.
Here is a part of my statement:
Art, with its non-existing borders, makes it possible to
use everything. You can put everything into one object
..
which is like a letter that has to reach its addressee (1, cf
Lacan). Someone will get it in the end. It is a form of suspended
message-object. When something engages and invites you to make
something with it (explore it, understand it, joke about it, comment
on it, imitate it, mix it with other things...) you don't have
to write a report about your work - immediate communication is
embedded in the action/object resulting from the process.
I refer to culture as a linguistic arrangement,
a vocabulary of terms, a language I can draw elements from. I
take well-known, archetypal forms and combine or interpret them,
with the intention of conveying a complex, but clear, idea about
the way I see these things. Or perhaps a notion, an atmosphere.
I do not use any single technique but usually favor
traditional mediums (painting and crafts); and I try to hitch
the technique to the message/concept. If I want to converse about
technology, I will definitely use montage (assembly of ready-made
parts) in the process. For example, in my "Replace Your TV
with a Painting" series, I create a composition of ready-made,
prepared elements in order to discuss technological, psychological
influences. If I want to refer to contemporary economic modes
in art, I may choose a contemporary style and use imagery from
a shopping mall. If I want to talk about the atmosphere of an
art school I am exhibiting in, I will use materials from that
location (see my Artskool installation work, from
my final exhibition).
My art also has another side spiritual or
even religious. I come from a Jewish background (more or less
secular but still Jewish). It could be that deep strains of Judaism
find their way in my work. The rejection of materiality and everyday-life,
which comes from a religious-Jewish realm, and is also close to
the Gnostic/Christian outlook, is something that may be very essential
to me and find a lot of expression in my work.
But like many up-to-date creators, I also "sin"
in my attraction to materiality:
plastic looks, glamour, artificiality, and the fashionable, which
may be critical or authentic. Complex personalities can contain
many facets that may seem contradictory.
IFROSA: Can you tell
us how you see yourself within Israeli art? Perhaps through the
artists and schools you admire?
Roee Suffrin:
I like a lot the conceptual art of the 70s, artists such
as Moti Mizrahi and Gideon Gechtman and art from the 90s,
artists such as Ohad Meromi and Guy Ben Ner who were my teachers.
But, I prefer artists whom I feel are individual and innovative,
such as Mordechai Ardon and contemporary artist Zvi Goldstein.
Personally, I try not to relate to any group or stream, in order
to maintain my independence and my own personality. I do not want
to be like those who imitate and follow trends, or those who create
a form of local art based on temporary political or social processes.
Even though, I know I have something of both.
IFROSA: What is your reaction to
the many positive responses we have received from professional
critics, artists, and readers across the world since your work
became internationally known ? IFROSAs
visitors book is testimony to this.
Roee Suffrin:
I was surprised both by the large number and vigor of the responses
I received over the last two years. Prior to this, I did not realize
that art can evoke such strong reactions and such positive emotions.
IFROSA: Did you receive good responses
when you were an art student?
Roee Suffrin: I did receive good reviews
but nothing like those I have received recently. This is because
art teachers cannot allow themselves to praise their students
in this way.
IFROSA: Has the positive response
on the part of the public influenced the development of your work?
Roee Suffrin:
Positive responses greatly increase the feelings of value an artist
has towards his work. I am trying now to plunge deeper into the
true meaning of my work, and be true to myself because
I now know that my art can be of influence and importance. At
the concrete level, I can see that the results of my efforts are
more professional and, if I can permit myself to say so with modesty,
more impressive.
The important thing is to reveal the best of everything.
IFROSA: People who see your paintings,
often ask the same question: what is the inner source of this
painter who produces paintings of such force and such varied themes?
We therefore ask you this loaded question: what are your inner
sources?
Roee Suffrin:
I cannot map the totality of my sources
.but I can say that
an inner force impels me to express myself through materials that
are nuanced and accurate in what they communicate. I have a desire
to know form and, through it, to express my deep connection
to the world. I want to express something acute and thought-provoking.
And I have a need to feel through the creative process and re-experience
whatever magnetized me in the first place.
IFROSA: In what way
are Persian sources and culture reflected in your work ?
I elaborate. When spectators see your works on the site or in
an exhibition, or in the Jerusalem gallery where more than 20
new works are displayed, they have the following reaction: they
feel that, even though the subject matter varies greatly, from
a war scene to childrens games, modern work room, sketches
of women, Torah study, etc., all your works have a similar quality
like a gentle, moving strain which passes from one to the
other and to the spectator. This is the particular charm of your
work: it touches the heart, rebounds back, like a spring, and
touches us again. It touches inner depths which are musical, emotional,
overwhelming, tender, interrogating, like the current of a river
which can be calm or turbulent, but is always the same. It is
a non-destructive life which wins over war, evil and the doubts
of modern times, which are also present in your work. This awakens
in us, the spectators, a sort of special flexibility
which is present in all existence and reveals itself like the
perpetual life of inner and outer creation.
This is very evident in the reactions of the public and of critics.
This experience is similar to that evoked by Persian poetry, such
as: Rumis Mathnawi, particularly the introduction which,
from a simple flute, encompasses desire, heartache, loss, and
infinite love; Hafez magnificent Divan; Saadis Golestan
where the simplicities of life become blessings, praise and gratitude.
We have the impression, in these works, of witnessing the intimate
dialogue between the Jewish Queen Esther and the King of the kings
of Persia, a dialogue which has never been repeated between Israel
and another nation. Do you feel connected to these ancient traditions
which are still alive today in Iranian culture and known to every
Iranian child and adult, you whose maternal branch recently returned
to Israel, where you were born?
Roee Suffrin:
I would not be quick in adhering to one culture or notion, but
yes I do feel connected. The multiplicity of details, elements
and subjects in my work, which reflects a need to articulate something
that is all-encompassing, must have a Persian source. The attempt
to grasp the world and its components, to show all sides and perspectives,
even those faraway in the universe...
The crowding of the expanse of the canvas actually comes from
a desire to add more and more dimensions and convey something
total, comprehensive and deep (maybe even existential truths and
inner purification
. through the amalgamation of many things
together).
There is also my penchant for ornamentation and the parallel,
complementary arrangement of objects on a canvas. Each object
stands on its own, but a complex inter-relationship is created
in the overall composition.
IFROSA : What is the Jewish element
in your inspiration and works ?
Roee Suffrin:
My need to experience things as they are, in their true nakedness
and glory is probably deeply connected to my Jewishness. As is
my desire to point to an object, to describe it as it is, and
acknowledge the totality of its existence just as it appears
to us in the depth of the night, when the cultural prism through
which we view things in daylight is no longer valid. It may also
explain my need to map cultural constellations, identify personal
motives and position the individual within society. Since time
immemorial, Jews have sought to define and examine the state of
the collective and to shed light on the role of the individual
within the collective and his influence on the entire collective.
IFROSA: What is the Ashkenazi influence
on your work?
Roee Suffrin:
I would like to blame my Ashkenazi side for my need to criticize
and to judge, for my tendency to see the false within a specific
reality and to react to this
.and I can definitely say that
it is the source of my tendency towards the fantastic, the dark
and the legendary. In my works, there are obscure zones, which
exude an atmosphere of mystery, and figures which have a Gothic
or morbid allure. I believe this derives from German culture.
My attraction towards Modernism and its minimal aesthetics are
also rooted in my Ashkenazi background. Modern human life is not
always rich or pleasant, and my family experiences in recent decades
certainly impacted on me and instilled in me the desire to engage
in Modernism and deal with the experiences that accompany it.
IFROSA: Your work is characterized
by a multiplicity of social situations and variety of techniques
and yet it imparts a sense of unity. To what do you ascribe this?
Roee Suffrin:
Each work is treated with the same devotion. I try to recreate
or repeat, in each work, a complex set of ideas (or mental structure).
Maybe it is a repetition of the same thing, or maybe it is something
similar with slight shifts. Thus, even if the external subject
changes, the essence remains much the same and this must be the
explanation for the sense of unity in my work.
IFROSA: How do you
achieve this? Is it through the juxtaposition of themes or techniques,
or do you connect elements of one painting with another, or within
the same work?
Roee Suffrin:
I cannot say exactly how the unity is created from the different
elements or themes. Juxtaposition is one way of connecting elements
and creating a homogenous quality. But often it is the result
of a process of deep contemplation, i.e. what will happen if I
put in more of a certain visual element, what will happen if I
reduce the emotion expressed
. I know that, during the process
of working, a lot of shifts of mood and focus occur and all this
is shown and felt in the result and somehow it all bonds together
to form a whole.
IFROSA: How would you define this
internal motion, which you undergo in the process of working on
a painting?
Roee Suffrin:
I feel that it is a state of engagement with several issues, senses,
thoughts and feelings. It could also be a personal openness towards
several dimensions: listening, contemplating and expressing, all
at the same time.
IFROSA: How do you define the end-result
of this process?
Roee Suffrin:
There is a sense of multi-perceptiveness, like something that
is diamond shaped, each work having many sides and meanings. Because
of the multitude of subjects and techniques, the works are not
one dimensional or determinate, but shifting. They can, therefore,
connect easily to each other.
IFROSA: Are you ready to respond
directly to readers who wish to have an interaction with you through
this site?
Roee Suffrin:
What a question! Of course, I would be happy to respond openly
to any questions, suggestions or ideas. Interaction is an important
subject for an activist from the cultural world since
it helps to construct and develop his art.
These issues are important to the many people who appreciate your
paintings and wish to understand you. They are also important
because they help us to understand the powerful bond that exists
between ourselves and your work.
These questions and exchanges between us, the spectators and you,
the painter, constitute the raison detre of our association
IFROSA.
NOTES FOR OUR READERS, FROM IFROSA:
1. Jacques Lacan, French psychoanalyst (1901-1981).
Regarding the letter referred to by Roee Suffrin,
read: Jacques Lacan, Le Seminaire sur la Lettre Volée,
linstance de la lettre dans linconscient (Seminar
on the Stolen Letter, the instance of the letter in the unconscious,)
Ecrits, Le Seuil, Paris 1966.
For Lacan, the letter is suspended of meaning, like meaning that
is stolen. It represents the materiality of the signifier and
cannot be divided.
On the change in the concept of the unconscious from Freud to
Lacan, from meaning to a letter, see Laplanche and Leclaire, LInconscient,
une etude psychoanalytique (The Unconscious: a Psychoanalytical
Study). See also, LInconscient, (The Unconscious) Desclee
de Brouwer, 1966.
According to Lacan, the unconscious is not a second, parallel
language corresponding to the manifest language, but represents
a chain of signifiers placed like a letter within the spaces offered
by actual speech and the cogitation it informs (Lacan, Ecrits,
page 799).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacques_Lacan
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacques_Lacan
See also The Stolen Letter by Edgar Allan Poe. In this short story,
detective Auguste Dupin is told by G
, the prefect of the
Paris police, that a letter of the highest importance has been
stolen from the royal boudoir.
Link to the magnificent text, read in its entirety: http://www.archive.org/details/LaLettreVolee
2. Moti Mizrahi
He lives in Tel Aviv (born 1946). The work of Moti Mizrachi cannot
be easily classified, for he is a painter, sculptor, photographer,
video and performance artist. In "Blinking", Mizrachi
digitally processed fifteen hundred photographs from the newspaper
Haaretz, covering the beginning of the second Intifada in
September 2000 to the attack on the World Trade Center twelve
months later. He then printed the images on canvas, creating a
semi-abstract work that suggests a high-speed scene viewed from
a window. By compressing the harsh contents of a year's news photographs,
the images become blurred, leaving us in a state of "blinking".
The viewer can discern actual images only after intense scrutiny,
and thereby confronts the numbing effect of the constant media
barrage accorded to current events.
3. Gideon Gechtman
Gideon Gechtman was born in Alexandria, Egypt and moved to British
mandate Palestine with his family in 1945. He studied at the Avni
Institute of Art and Design (1961-1962), Hammersmith College of
Art (1968-1971), Ealing School of Art, and Tel Aviv University
(1975-1976).
After returning to Israel from London with his future wife, singer/actress
Bat-Sheva Zeisler, he created minimalistic art that was typical
of that period. These works "didactically demonstrate structural
and figurative change in material and appearance." Gechtman
taught at the Bezalel Academy of Art and Design in Jerusalem (1972-1975)
and Beit Berls Art Teachers Training College (1971-2008).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gideon_Gechtman
4. Ohad Meromi
Born in Israel in 1967, Meromi currently lives and works in New
York. Meromi graduated from Bezalel Academy in 1992 and went on
to receive his MFA from Columbia University School of the Arts
in 2003. In his videos, photographs, and structural installations,
Meromi evokeds a utopian, modernist spirit and explores concepts
of collaboration, improvisation, and community. He has presented
solo exhibitions at the PS1 Contemporary Art Center, New York,
the Tel Aviv Museum of Art and the Israel Museum.
Meromi has received numerous scholarships and awards including
from the I.C. Excellence Foundation, the Fund for Video and Experimental
Film, and the Hadassa and Refael Klachkin award from the America
Israel Cultural Foundation. He was recently granted the Foundation
for Contemporary Arts 2008 Grants to Artists Award and was named
winner of the Jasper Johns Young Artist Prize by the John King
Foundation.
http://www.bezalelfriends.org/artists/artists-meromi.html
5. Guy Ben Ner
Ben-Ner was born in Ramat-Gan, Israel, in 1969. He received a
Bachelors degree from HaMidrasha Art College in Ramat Hasharon
in 1997 and a Master of Fine Arts from Columbia University in
2003. Ben-Ner has exhibited internationally and in 2005 represented
Israel at the Venice Biennial. The artist had had solo exhibitions
at the Contemporary Arts Center, Cincinnati [2005], Center for
Contemporary Art, Tel Aviv (2006); Center for Contemporary Photography,
Melbourne (2006); Musée dart contemporain de Montréal
(2007); and the National Gallery of Canadas L'Espace Shawinigan
(2008). Guy Ben-Ners work has also been exhibited at the
Museum of Modern Art, New York [2004]; P.S.1 Contemporary Art
Center, New York (2005); Sculpture Projekte, Muenster (2007);
and the Shanghai Biennale (2008); and was recently featured at
the Liverpool Biennial (2008). In 2007 Ben-Ner was awarded a prestigious
DAAD fellowship. The artist is represented by Postmasters Gallery,
New York, and Konrad Fischer, Düsseldorf. He is currently
a guest lecturer at the Bezalel Academy of Art and Design, Jerusalem.
The artist lives and works in Tel Aviv
http://www.google.co.il/search?
6. Mordechai Ardon
July 13, 1896 June 18, 1992), considered one of Israel's
greatest painters. Ardon was born in Tuchów, Galicia (then
Austria-Hungary, now Poland), and immigrated to British Mandate
Palestine (later Israel) in 1933. One of his most famous creations
are the Ardon Windows, a set of large stained-glass windows, incorporating
visual elements from the Kabbalah, which are on prominent display
at the Jewish National and University Library in Jerusalem,.
In 1963, Ardon was awarded the Israel Prize in painting.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mordecai_Ardon
7. Zvi Goldstein.
An Israeli conceptual sculptor, who was born in Cluj, Romania,
in 1947. After studying at the Bezalel Academy of Arts and Design
in Jerusalem (1966-9) he completed his studies (1969-72) at the
Accademia di Belle Arti, Milan. He returned to Israel in 1978,
intent on splitting from the Western mainstream in order to develop
an artistic language based on a strong, conceptual attitude and
opposed to the, then, dominant trend towards figurative painting.
This language was conceived as a parallel to textual expressions
being formulated at the time in Italy. The relationship between
object and text subsequently became more intricate, with the object
becoming a syntactical language that transforms the text into
an interpreter. Although containing deliberate echoes of Russian
Constructivist structures, Goldstein's works are not characterized
by a stylistic approach, but build on an exchange of conflicting
and parallel ideas. In 1978, he began teaching at the Bezalel
Academy of Arts and Design. Henceforth, he used metaphor in its
most abstract sense, and proposed that artists on the periphery,
outside Europe and the US, give new forms to geographical, social
and artistic works. Goldstein defined the three main categories
of his work in his Serial Constructions series (e.g. the installation
Element F16-Second Version, metal and formica structures, 1987;
Kassel, Documenta 8), Anomalies series, Third World and World
3: Anomalous Models (painted aluminum, wood and plexiglass, 1.50*0.60
m-3.00*1.50 m, 1987; Paris, Pompidou) and the Perfect Worlds/Possible
Worlds series (e.g. Future, Utopia, Eschatology (painted aluminum,
wood and plexiglass, l. 12 m, 1989; Dusseldorf, Stadt. Ksthalle).
He has had solo exhibitions at the Israel Museum in Jerusalem
(1982), the Tel Aviv Museum of Art (1983), and the Musée
National d'Art Moderne in Paris (1987).