Mosahebe' ba roee
























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IFROSA (anjomane' djahaneye' doustane' roee sofrin): az shoma motshakerim ke' mosahebe' ba ma ra ghaboul kardid. Xeili mohem ast ke' beshnavim shoma, be' onvane' naghash, dar bare' makane' xod dar sonate' naghashane' esraeele che' fekr mikonid

ROEE SUFFRIN:
Dar sabke' naghashie' esraeele yek sonat ya yek ideology vojoud ma bayad az yek takamole' ghani , pichide' va chand-zeleye' tarixi sohbat konim .man be' sabk ya teknike' xasi vabastegi nadaram. Dar morede' kare' xodam, man mamolan dar bare' normhaye' ejtemaee va gerayesh haye' mode' rouz; va asare' anha bar roye' "honare' zibaee shenasi ", nazar midaham. Man be' sabk ya teknike' xasi vabastegi nadaram. Be' tor koli , be' ghiafeha alaghe'mandam , va dar natije' , az teknikha va sabkhaye' moxtalef; ba tavajoh be' chizi ke' dar an lahzeye' bexosous niaz daram, estefade' mikonam.

Man be' donbale' sojehaye' edjtemaee hastam, aadat daram ke' "formhaye' mozoun" ra barrasi konam, va az in rah, raje be' mogheiathaye' ejtemaii va fardi va vaziate' ravani ke' dar in mogheiatha dja darand , nazar bedaham.

Formhaye' mozoun daraye' mohtavaye' ideology, arzeshha va bavar ha hastand; ke' dar ejtema naghsh darand, va dar namayeshgahhaye' aadi dide' mishavand.

Bana bar in, man az teknik haye' gonagoun estefade' mikonam va az sabki be' sabke' digar "miparam", va in bastegi darad ke' ba che mozouii sar o kar daram va che mohtavaii ra mixaham barrasi konam.

IFROSA: raje' be' sabegheye' honarietan va toseeye' aan baraye' ma begouid

ROEE SUFFRIN:
Vaghti ke' kouchek boudam be' rasm kardane' heyvanat va xaneha az tarigh' elmi, shrou kardam. Chandi baad, tasaviri be' sabke' romantic-idealistic, mesle' doreye' ghabl az renaisans, xalgh kardam. Man hes mikonam ke' in asar namayeshgare' enteghad haye' siasi shadid man hastand va alagheye' mara be' zendegiye' rouhani, dar moghayese' ba zendegiye' rouz mare' neshan midahand.

In aghayed ke' bar asase' tamayolate' amigh o shaerane' va filsofane' boudand, ta sene' 19 salegi ke tah silatam ra tamam kardam, djozi az donyaye' man behesab miamadand.

Be' onvane' yek honarmande' mostaghel, ke' dar akademi tahsil mikard, ba rasm o raviyeye' akademi neza mikardam, va neza e' man bar zede' rasm o raviyeye' edjtemaiye' emrouze' , hanouz dar asaram peydaast .

IFROSA:
Manzour az "bayaniyeye' farzi" chist va aya honar mand ghader ast xod ra az in tarigh bayan konad?

ROEE SUFFRIN:
Xeili mohem ast ke' honarmand bavar haye' xod ra ezhar konad , xah roshanfekrane' bashad ya nah.

In ghesmati az ezhariyeye' man ast: "honar ke' marz nemishenasad, be' ma emkan midahad ke' az har hizi estefade' konim. Mitavan hame' chiz ra ba ham tarkib va be' yek chiz tabdil karde. Mesle' namei ke bayad be' maghsadash beresad. Belaxare' kasi aanra peyda xahad kard. manand noii "payame' moalagh ".

Vaghti chizi tavadjoe' shoma ra djalb mikonad , ke az aan estefade' karde' va chizi dorost konid, (kashf konid , befahmid , raje' be' ann joke begouid

Dar bareye' aan ezhare' nazar konid, aan ra taghlid konid, ann ra tarkib konid) lazem nist dar bareye' projeye' xod gozaresh tahiye' konid, lazemeye' kaar bar gharariye' ertebate' fori ast.

Baraye' man farhang be' hokme' yek sa axte' elme' zabanshenasi va farhange' vazheha mibashad ke' mitavan az aan anasori esrexraj kard .

Man yek forme' asli o shenaxte' shode' ra migiram, aanra tarkib ya tafsir mikonam va ghasdam resandane' yek payame' pichide' be' sourate' roshan va vazeh , dar bareye' noghte' nazaram raje' be' ashia ya yek idee' ya yek djav ast.

Man sabke' xasi ra donbal nemikonam , agar che' mamoulan sonat ra tarjih midaham mesle : mesle' naghashi va sanaye' dasti, va saay mikonam ke' teknik va idee' ba ham motabegh bashand .

Agar bexaham raje' be' technology sohbat konam ghat 'an az montage estefade' xaham kard. Yek mesal seri naghashihaist be' naame' " television xod ra ba tablohaye' naghashi avaz konid ", tarkibi az anasore' hazeri va aamade' bevojod miavaram ta betavanam raje' be' asarate' teknology va ravaniye' aan bahs konam. Agar manzouram eshare' be' vazi yat haye' eghtesadiye' konouni dar honar bashad, momken ast sabki emrouzi va " sheklhaii" az yek markaze' xarid ra entexab konam . agar bexaham az yek madreseye' honar , ke' asaram ra dar aan be' namayesh migozaram , sohbat konam, az abzari ke' dar mahal ast estefade' mikonam.(m.k. b. " madreseye' honar"- karhaye' nasb- namayeshgahe' axiram).

Honare' man yek bod digar ham darad - bod rouhani va hata dini. Man az yek xanevadeye' yahoudi taghriban ghair mazhabi vali ba in hal yahoudi hastam . Momken ast ke' keshesh haye amigh yahadout rah xod ra dar kar haye' man hamvar mikonand. Emtena az maadi gari va zendegiye' rouz mare' ke' be' ghalamroe' mazhabe' yahoud taalogh darad, v a be' nazargah e' masihiat niz nazdik mibashad, momken ast xeili baraye man asasi bashad; va in didgah dar asare' man bayan mishavad.

Vali manande' hameye' honarmandane' moaser, man ham nacharan be' maadigari kishide' mishavam. Ghiafehaye' arousaki, zargh o bargh, masnouii boudan, va peirabvi az mod. Shaxsiat haye' pichide' momken ast sorat haye' moxtalefi dashte' bashand ke' in soratha motazad yekdigarand.

IFROSA:
Aya mitavanid be' ma begoiid ke' dar charchoube' honare' esraeeli xod ra chegoune' mibinid? Shayad az dide' honarmandan va makatebi ke' be' anha alaghe' darid?

ROEE SUFFRIN:
Man honare' " edaraki "ye ' salhaye' 70 va honarmandani mesle'

Moti Mizraxi va Gideon Gechman ra doust daram va honare' salhaye' 90 va honarmadani mesle' ohad meromi va guy ben- ner , ke' moalemane' man boudand, tahsin mikonam. Vali, man honarmandani ra tarjih midaham ke' ehsas mikonam yegane' va noavar hastand mesle' Mordexai Ardon va honarmande' moaser Tzvi Goldshtein .

Shaxsan , man nemixaham mesle' kasani basham ke' moghaled hastand va donbale' ro ' mode' rouz, ya asare' honariye' boumi va va baste' be' jaryanate' siasi va ejtemaii moaser ast . agar che' midanam ke' xod niz kami ba har do ye' in groh ha vajhe' moshtarek daram.

IFROSA:
Vakonesh e' shoma nesbat be' aksolamalhaye' mosbate' montaghedane' va honarmandan va xanandegane' sarasare' donya , va inke' asare' shoma dar sarasare' djahan shenaxte' shode' va shomareye' Bazdid konandegane' sayte' IFROSA shahede' aan ast , chist?

ROEE SUFFRIN:
Man ham az tedad va ham az azemate' vakonesh haye' ke' dar in do sal axir dar yaft karde'am, moteajeb shodam. Ghabl az in nemidanestam ke honar momken ast baese' chenin vakonesh haye' azim va chenin ehsasate' garmi shaved.

IFROSA:
Aya vaghti daneshjouye' madreseye' honar boudid ham ba vakonesh haye mosbat rouberou mishodid?

ROEE SUFFRIN:
Vale', vali na mesle' vakonesh haye' ke' axiran ba aanha rouberou mishavam, choun ostadan be' xod in ejaze' ra nemidahand ke' kare' honarjou ra tahsin konand.

IFROSA:
Aya vakoneshe' mosbate' omoum dar toseeye' faaliate' honariye' shoma tasir dashte'?

ROEE SUFFRIN:
Vakonesh haye' mosbat dar hade' vasi 'i ehsase' arjmandi honarmand ra dar morede' asare' honariash taghviat mikonad . saaye' man kand o kave' bishtari dar karam ast va inke' ba xod roraast basham; choun aknon ke' be' man sabet shode' ke' honare' man mitavanad moaser va mohem bashad, dar vaghe', mitavanam befahmam ke' aknoun karhayam herfe'ii tar hastand; va agar ejaze' dashte' basham ba tavazo ezhar konam, xeili amightar mibashand . Mohem in ast ke' dar har chiz behtarinha ra kashf konim.

IFROSA:
Baraye' kasani ke' naghashihaye' shoma ra dide' and, yek soaal pish miayad va aan in ast "in naghash az che' manbae' darounii barxordar ast ke' asar ou chenin ghodrat va mozoate' gounagouni darand?" Bana bar in ma ham az shoma in soal mohem ra mikonim: nirou haye' darouni shoma che' hastand?

ROEE SUFFRIN:
Nemitavanam tarhe' daghighi az manabe' xod bedaham , vali mitavanam begouyam ke' niroui darouni mara be' soye' mozoati mikeshad ke' dar anha "noavari " vojoud darad va be' tore' daghigh mozo ra be' binande' miresanand. Eshtiaghe' man be' danestane' form har chizi ,va az in tarigh, ijade' rabete 'i amigham ba donyast.

Maghsoude' man bayane' chiz hayist ke' borande' hastand va ma ra be' fekr miandazand; va niaz daram ke' dar taye' marhaleye' xalaghiat , anche' mara dar avale' kar sehr kard, dobare' tajrobe' konam.

IFROSA:
Manabe' honar va farhange' farsi chegoune' dar kar haye' shoma monakes mishavand ? Manzouram in ast ke' vaghti mardom kar haye' shoma ra, dar site ya dar namayeshgah, ya dar gallery yerushalaym, ke' bish az 20 asar jadide' shoma ra be' namayesh gozashte', mibinand, hes mikonand ke' agar che' naghashi haye' shoma motenave' ast yani: az sahne' haye' djang gerefte' ta baziye' bache 'ha va atolie' haye' djadid.

Tasvire' zanan , amouzeshe' tora va ghaire', tamame' kar haye' shoma ba ham vadjhe' moshtarek darand- manande' yek keshesh ke' az yek asare' honari be' digari , va be' tamashagar montaghel mishavad.

Djazabiate' kare' shoma dar in ast ke' be' del mineshinad, dobare' monakes mishavad , manande' yek cheshme' va baz ma ra navazesh mikonad. Naghashiye' shoma be' omghe' daroun miresad ke' mozikal, por az ehsas, gidj konande' , narm va porseshgar ast; mesle' modje' darya ke' mitavanad aram ya tofanza bashad , vali hamishe' haman ast ke' boude'; hamanande' zendegie' sade' ke' bar djang , sheitan va tardid haye' zendegiye' modern , ke' dar asar shoma peyda hastand ; ghalabe' mikonad . Va in , dar ma tamashagaran, baese' noii "enetaf paziri " mishavad ke' dar hayat vojoud darad; va xod ra dar xalaghiate' zaheri va bateni, manande' zendegie' abadi zaher mikonad. In mozo dar vakonesh haye' omoum va montaghedane' honari aashkar ast.

Mannade' ehsasi ke' ba ashaare' farsiye shaerani mesle' roumi be' ma dast midahad ke' az neye' sade' amyal, ghose', feghdan va eshghe' javedani be' ma montaghel mishavand; manande' divane' binazire' hafez va golestane' saadi, ke' sadegi va bi alayeshiye' zendegi be' barkat va setayesh va tahsin tabdil mishavad.

Bardashte' ma az in asar in ast ke' ma shahede' gofto gouye' samimimi beine' Esther, malake'ye' yahoudi, ba shahe shahan hastim; gofto goui ke' digar hich vaght dar tarixe' esraeel ba digar melal tekrar nashode'.

Aya shoma xod ra ba in sonat haye' dirin ke' hanouz dar farhange' iran va nazde' bache' va bozorg shenaxte' shode' and , va be' onvane' shaxsi ke' rishehaye' madariash axiran be esraeel baz gashte' and; va shoma zadeye' anja hastid, mortabet midanid?

ROEE SUFFRIN:
Nemixaham xodam ra moghayed be' yek farhang ya aghide' konam, vali ba in haal, bale', ehsase' bastegi mikonam.

Taadode' djoziat va mozoat dar karam, ke' gouyaye' ehtiaj be' baayane' chizi ast ke' "hame' chiz ra dar bar migirad", va saaye' man dar bar gereftane' donya va har che' dar oust , va neshan dadane' tamame' sotoh va noghte' nazar ha, hata aan haii ke' dour az dastras va dar kahkeshan hastand, momken ast be' rishe' haye' parsiye' man rabt dashte' bashad.

Anbashte' kardane' sathe' tabloye' naghashi az in meile' man sarcheshme' migirad ke' mixaham abaade' bishtar o bishtari be' kaaram ezafe' konam; peyghami hame' djanebe' beresanam ke' mafhoum va amigh bashad ( hata shayad haghayeghe' hayaat va taharate' darouni, ke' az tarkibe' adjae' moxtalef ba ham , emkaan pazir ast.

Neshaneye' digar , alagheye' man be' taziin va mozouni va nazm o tartibe' zibaye' mozoaat rouye' tabloye' naghashi ast. Har shei'i mostaghel ast , vali ertebati pichide' va darouni dar tarkibe' kollie' aan ha ijad mishavad.

IFROSA:
Che' anasori az yahadout dar elhamaat va asare' shoma vojoud darad?

ROEE SUFFRIN:
Niaze' man be' " lamse' " so ujeha haman goune' ke' hastand, bedoune' poushesh, va ba shokouhe' ziad; shayad amighan be' yahoudiate' man ertebaat dashte' bashad. Hamanande' meile' man be' eshare' be' chizi va tashrihe' aan, bedoune' kam o kaast, va darke' tamamiate' vojoude' aan- hamantor ke' dar dele' tarikiye' shab be' ma namayan mishavad ; aan vaghti ke' manshoure' farhangi ke' ma az varaye' aan dar rouz be' ashia minegarim , digar ahamiati nadarad. Shayad tozihe' digarash in bashad, ke' man niaz daram ke' saxt haye' farhangi ra rasm konam, maghasede' asli ra tashxis daham, va fard ra be' djame 'e' molhagh konam .

Az boude' ta boude', yahoudian dar jostojoye' rahi baraye' tashrih va arzyabiye' mogheiate' omoum, va tojihe' naghshe' fardi dar djamaat, va asare' aan bar rouye' toudeye' mardom boude'and.

IFROSA:
Ashkenazi boudane' shoma che' asari bar rouye' kar haye' shoma gozaashte'?

ROEE SUFFRIN:
Ashkenazi boudane' man baes shode' ke' didi enteghadi dashte' basham va ghezavat konam . dar yek haghighate' xaas , dorough ra bejouyam va nesbat be' aan vakonesh neshaan daham; in mozo, hamchenin, manbae' kesheshe' man be' tarafe' xial, omgh, va afsane' gara ist.

Dar asaram nokati mobham vojoud darand ke' az xod djavi asrar amiz taravosh mikonand, tasaviri ke' ma ra be' sabke' gothic va maxouf eghva mikonand. Fekr mikonam ke' in asarate' farhange' almani bashad . hamchenin kesheshe' man be' modernism, va ektefa be' hade' aghale' zogh be' "zibaii garaii", az ashkenazi boudane' man sarcheshme' migirad .

Zendegiye' modern hamishe' ghani va delchasb nist. Tajrobehaye' xanevadegiye' man dar in dahehaye' axir xeili moaser boude'and va be' donbale' in tajareb, dar man tamayoli be' modernism, va pardaxtan be' kasbe' tajarebi ke' be' donbale' aan miayad, padidar shode'.

IFROSA:
Alamate' moshaxaseye' asare' shoma , taadode' mogheiat haye' ejtemaii va gounagouniye' teknik haye shomast , vali ba in haal, dar kare' shoma hamahangi ehsaas mishavad . che' goune' be' in hadaf miresid?

ROEE SUFFRIN:
Man ba fadakaari be' xalghe' har kodam az asram mipardazam.

Dar har kaaram, saay mikonam, yek seri idÈe haye' pichide' ya bonyane' rouhi ra dobare' xalgh karde', ya aanra tekrar konam. Momken ast ke' aan tekrari az asare' ghabli; ya chizi shabih be' aan, ba kaami taghiir bashad.

Hatta agar mozoe' xareji taghiir konad, djane' kalaam taghriban yeksaan mimaanad, va shaayad tozihe' hese' yeganegi dar asare' man, hamin bashad.

IFROSA:
Che' goune' be' in hadafe' xod miresid? Aya mozoaat va teknik ha ra kenare' ham migozarid ya dar hamaan asar, ba ham rabt midahid?

ROEE SUFFRIN:
Vaghighan nemishavad goft yeganegi che' goune' be' vasileye' anasor ya mozoate' moxtalef ijad mishavad . "Kenare' ham gozaashtan " yeki az rah haye' tarkibe' anasor va tolide' asari ast ba keifiate' yekparche'.

Vali, aghlab in natijeye' tafakori amigh ast, masalan: "agar kaami bishtar az anasore' marbout be' hese' visuali dar kaar hayam estefade' konam, che' xahad shod; ya agar az sheddate' ehsase' bayan shode' dar yek naghashi kaam konam, che' xahad shod , va gheire'.

Midanam ke' vaghti be' kaare' naghashi mashghoulam, taghirati az lahaaz rouhi va tamarkoz ijad mishavand; va hameye' in ha dar natijeye' nahaiye' kaar neshan dade' shode' va ehsaas mishavand; va be' nahvi hameye' in padideha ba ham djam mishavand, ta asari kaamel bevojoud ayad.

IFROSA:
In taghiir halate' darouni ra che' goune' tojih mikonid?

ROEE SUFFRIN:
Man ehsas mikonam ke' in vaziati ast ke' az pardaxtan be' chand mozo va edrak o afkaar o ehsasat pish miayad. Momken ast ke' in vaziat dar asar amadegiye' ma be' pazireshe' chandin bod bashad: shenavaii , andishe', bayan, va hameye' in ha ba ham.

IFROSA:
Che' goune' natijeye' kolliye' in marhale' ra vasf mikonid?

ROEE SUFFRIN:
In hamanande' ehsasi ast az " darke' moza'af", manande' shei'ie be' shekle' almaas. Har asari djavaneb o ma'aniye' gounagoun darad.

Be' ellate' ezdiade' sojeha va teknik ha, in asar yek bodi va saabet nistand, balke' dar taghiir mibashand; bana bar in be' asani ba ham rabete' ijad mikonand.

IFROSA:
Aya hazerid ke' ba xanandegani ke' mixahand ba shoma az tarighe' in site tamaas begirand; be' tor e' mostaghim dar rabete' bashid?

ROEE SUFFRIN:
Che' soali! albate'. Hazeram be' har soal, pishnahad va aghideii djavabe' sarih bedaham. Tamas mohem tarin soje' baraye' yek "faale' " donyaye' farhangi ast; choun be' honarvar komak mikonad ta asare' honariash ra bevojoud avarad va par varesh dahad.

IFROSA:
In mataleb baraye' xeili az mardom ke' kaar shoma ra tahsin mikonand; va mixahand shoma ra daark konand, va hamchenin baraye' ma mohem hastand, choun be' ma komak mikonand ke' ertebate' amighi ra ke' bein ma va asaare' shomast, daark konim. In soal ha va tabadole' nazar ha beine' ma, nazeran va shoma, honarmand, baese' vojoude' in anjoman ast.